Entity (LLC) Maintenance - Keeping your Corporation or LLC Legitimate July 10, 2008
Posted by Dan Marsh in Self Directed IRA/401k, real estate.Tags: self directed, ira, 401k, invest, investing, llc, ira llc, limited liability company, liability, asset protection, protect, corporation, pierce, veil, entity, maintenance, documents, meetings
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****** A note from Jeff Nabers ******
I asked attorney Dan Marsh to shed a bit of light on entity maintenance and its importance. With a general purpose LLC, failing to properly maintain the entity can result in “piercing the veil” which means subjecting creditors to assets of the LLC owner(s). With a special purpose IRA LLC, “piercing the veil” could mean a prohibited transaction resulting in hefty taxes, penalties, and interest.
Entity maintenance is important and it shouldn’t take too much time or money… yet it could save you a lot of time and money in the long run. I suggested Dan keep this post brief, but instead he did what attorneys are supposed to do: he was thorough. Rather than ask him to dumb it down and shorten it, here’s the article in its entirety…
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Landlording your IRA LLC’s properties - Is it allowed? May 30, 2008
Posted by Jeff Nabers in Self Directed IRA/401k, real estate.Tags: investment, self directed, ira, 401k, real estate, property, prohibited transaction, llc, ira llc, tax, checkbook control, irs, dol, exemption, landlord, landlording, repair, house, condo, taxes, treasury, regulation, code
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A question I get all the time is “Can I personally mow the lawn, maintain, and/or repair properties owned by my IRA LLC?” My answer is “No” which usually creates the response “But another company said I could.”
First, let’s summarize that the accountholder/participant of a retirement plan generally can’t have a transaction between themselves and their retirement plan. This includes the furnishing of services, sale of property, lending of money, and extension of credit between a plan and disqualified person (such as the accountholder). Next, let’s establish that active landlording means mowing the lawn, repairing, and fixing up properties, while passive landlording means collecting rent, paying mortgages/taxes/insurance, and contracting out the more active tasks to non-disqualified-persons. So is active landlording allowed? No, and I’ll provide two answers - the technical and the layman’s.
The Technical Answer
The argument for why active landlording for your IRA LLC’s property is not a prohibited transaction goes something like this…
As a general rule, the Internal Revenue Code provides (more…)
Where to Find Reliable Self Directed IRA & 401(k) Information April 21, 2008
Posted by Jeff Nabers in Self Directed IRA/401k.Tags: checkbook ira, conduct, ethics, information, investing, investments, ira 401k, IRA Association, ira llc, llc, member, prohibited transaction, self directed
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I ran across something today that may surprise you. I was reminded of why I founded the IRA Association of America. I hear some of the craziest things from prospects and new customers, such as
“My understanding is that my IRA can loan money to a Corporation I own part of.”
“I’ve heard that my company can do business with my IRA if things are structured right.”
First of all, these statements are both incorrect, and would each result in a prohibited transaction, triggering hefty tax penalties. Now, when I hear these type of statements I wonder where they come from. I’ve always figured that they must originate from various new, inexperienced companies with educational materials that are simply inaccurate. Today, I found out that I’m half correct. It is coming from inaccurate materials and sources, but to my surprise, these sources aren’t always new and inexperienced.
This post is in reference to an LLC facilitator called CHECKBOOK IRA located at www.checkbookira.net and www.checkbookira.com. These guys may be familiar to you because, at the time of this writing and for the past several years, these web sites come up in search engine results for terms like “ira llc” and “self directed ira”. Now, I’ve never met or spoken with the owner, Steve Sheperd, so I can only comment based on the information on his web sites.
Currently, if you go to CHECKBOOKIRA.net and click “legal rulings” it links to a ruling that says “Your IRA can make a loan to a company owned less than 50% by the IRA owner.” This caught my attention because the claim was contrary to the understanding given to me from seasoned Department of Labor agents. So I clicked the link and read the entire document. (It’s important to note that (more…)
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