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1. Paul - June 15, 2008

Under current Federal Law do you think a domestic partner could be considered a DQP?

For example do you think a domestic partner could peform active labor in a property flipping investment? If so could they be paid prevailing wages? Could they work for free?

Would it make a difference if the person is the beneficiary for the IRA?

2. Jeff Nabers - June 15, 2008

I don’t think a domestic partner could be considered a DQP. The list of DQPs in the Internal Revenue Code is very simple and straightforward.

The definition of DQP is definitely intended to include most people who the accountholder could easily use as a conduit. For a domestic partner to not be on the DQP list may seem to be a loophole, but no more than the fact that siblings are not considered DQPs.

I think any non-DQP performing labor on an IRA/401k owned property is fine. But before pursuing such a thing, I recommend you read the “bigger picture” near the bottom of my post about landlording.

3. angela - July 11, 2008

What if an ira company is wholly owned by a private bank. Let’s say one of the directors/shareholders of the bank has an IRA account with the ira company (which is owned by the bank). Could the IRA invest into the bank’s money market account, when that bank is partially directed and/or owned by the accountholder? Would that constitute a prohibited transaction, and would the bank be a DQP?

4. Dee Nicholson - July 11, 2008

Could an IRA, LLC, who invests in first deeds of trust, invest in a loan with the individual who ownes the IRA.

5. Angela - July 15, 2008

Do you have any private letter rulings to reference, or any case law concerning an IRA that invests into an LLC which is managed by the IRA AccountHolder, who also has checkbook control for the LLC. This sounds very attractive, but I would like to see some type of official ruling on this. Thanks!

6. Mike Miller - July 28, 2008

I have a prospective client who has an existing 401K0. The client is a commercial bank. The bank has an inhouse investment adviser. The bank via their investment adviser is haring in commissions of their plan. Is this a prohibited transaction?

7. Jeff Nabers - August 1, 2008

@Mike - I focus mostly on self directed individual plans (not employee benefit plans).

To move yourself towards the answer,

- See IRC 4975(e)(2) to determine who is a disqualified person in the situation. Make a list.
- See IRC 4975(c)(1) [specifically (A) through (D)] to determine if any disqualified person “transacted” with the plan
- See IRC 4975(e)(3) to determine who is a fiduciary
- See IRC 4975(c) to determine if any fiduciary violates [specifically (E) and (F)]

If you need further assistance, contact me at 877-903-2220.

8. Jeff Nabers - August 1, 2008

@Dee - No.

@Angela - Re: Bank Money Market account… I always recommend erring on the side of caution; in this case it means open a MMA at a different bank. Typically one bank’s MMA interest rates aren’t going to beat the pants off another’s… so there’s no real incentive to not err on the side of caution.

@Angela - Re: Legitimacy of IRA LLC strategy - There is a fairly straightforward summary of this issue here and also here.

9. Mike Coulson - August 7, 2008

I have a client who has a self directed IRA and inadvertently invested in some silver coins that I have determined to be a prohibited investment. It appears that this investment will be taxable and subject to a 10% penalty in 2007. Can this transaction be unwound to avoid the taxes and penalty?

10. Jeff Nabers - August 13, 2008

Mike,

Did the silver coins hold collectors value?

IRS & DOL both have voluntary correction programs for prohibited transactions, but I have little experience with either.

11. John Park - August 29, 2008

This is in regards to Mike’s question. Yes this would be a prohibited transaction and, actually, could disqualify the plans triggering full distribution and tax penalties. This has been addressed on point in PLRs but I don’t have it around handy. Hope this helps.

12. Phillip Rassel - September 3, 2008

I sold a piece of real estate that I personally owned to by brother.
I now want to buy it back in my IRA. Is this a prohibited transaction?

13. Jeff Nabers - September 3, 2008

@Mike & John - Technically IRA investment into collectibles/metals is not a prohibited transaction. Firstly, if the metals meet definitions in IRC 408(m)(3), there should be no problem. If they do not, then, according to IRC 408(m)(1), it will be treated as a distribution in an amount equal to the cost of the “collectible” purchased.

14. Jeff Nabers - September 3, 2008

@Phllip - If this ultimate result was never conceived or intended, buying the property back in your IRA might not be a prohibited transaction. However, that may be a difficult case to argue. If the ultimate result of getting it into your IRA plan was conceived or intended at the point at which you decided to sell the property to your brother, then directing your IRA to now buy the property from your brother would likely be a prohibited transaction.